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  New arrangement from C.O.

  by Doctor Who in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

  visit about 2 months ago.

  during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

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  Wow! Does the code change with each meeting? Is that how they control who does and doesn't listen?
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  Richard Ashe Court Deposition - " Let elders handle child abuse- don't talk about it "

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as some of you know i was given pdf files of much of the conti and lopez child abuse court cases and asked from a friend to peruse through it and post some excerpts on the board here that may have been missed or not addressed in the pbs newshour report or the abc news nightline report.

  so after going through this richard ashe testimony i feel i found something quite interesting that exposes the real attitudes of the wt society leaders towards child abuse and the attitudes wt leaders put into it's appointed men's minds as well.

  the viewpoint that richard ashe displays is repeated in elders throughout thousands of jw congregations on this planet.

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  cha ching

  Ashe is a higher up in the Service Department, he gave a deposition saying, 'spiritual protection is what elders do, physical protection is what secular authorities are for'..... Basically, he said "if you want physical protection, go to the police" but in reality, most JW's will not go to police/ secular authorities in an attempt to " keep Jehovah's name from being reproached".... when REALLY, it is a reproach when children are not protected physically.
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  behind the curtain: literature offer for the month

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.

  i really cared about the people in the field.

  i thought their lives were in danger.

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  It's funny, I always knew it was about 'moving literature', but I guess I thought "it's good to get things off the shelf" and "it's bad to throw away perfectly good books" (didn't you feel guilty when you trashed all the old WT's and AW's that had just gotten way over your head after 10 or 15 years, and you knew there just weren't enough laundromats to distribute them, or enough time in a century) "It's not good to waste things, right?"

  Thank you Magnum, for that perspective.... it SHOULD have been about helping people....plain and simple.
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  Richard Ashe Court Deposition - " Let elders handle child abuse- don't talk about it "

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as some of you know i was given pdf files of much of the conti and lopez child abuse court cases and asked from a friend to peruse through it and post some excerpts on the board here that may have been missed or not addressed in the pbs newshour report or the abc news nightline report.

  so after going through this richard ashe testimony i feel i found something quite interesting that exposes the real attitudes of the wt society leaders towards child abuse and the attitudes wt leaders put into it's appointed men's minds as well.

  the viewpoint that richard ashe displays is repeated in elders throughout thousands of jw congregations on this planet.

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  cha ching

  Yes, it "may not be in your best interest " to talk about it....

  meaning? "You might get DF'd if you do! Beware!"
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  cha ching

  Aren't most murders, abuse, etc done by family members?

  And don't they say, "I didn't mean to?" If he gets mad, who knows what he will do while chopping up an onion?

  Once someone is dead, they are dead.
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  I want to carry the microphones"

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was the reason that our 12 year old son gave us for wanting to be baptized.

  my wife and i actually agreed that he should wait a little longer, thank god!

  by the time he was 13 he was running wild.

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  cha ching

  You will always, always regret not culturing a relationship with your daughter. You will feel even more guilty than you do now.

  Who do you want to be remembered as? The kind, loving, wise father who really cared about his children? or... The father who could follow rules ?

  Which father do you wish you had had?
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  A Taxi Driver Gave Me 4 Magazines This Morning

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as we had reached my destination, i paid him and was getting down when he handed me something.

  then i saw it was the wt and awake.

  i just had the time to say: "oh, okay, thank you!

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  I think it's GREAT that you got four magazines!

  Four less people to get indoctrinated! Take 'em, and trash 'em! ASAP!
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  Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?

  by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere in

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  2. friends

  with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.

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  the topic pretty much says everything..

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  cha ching

  Good one, Pete...
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  Would you call JW HQ???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is still in.

  this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.

  this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.

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  cha ching

  Well, that would be one way for him to learn TTATT.... Some people will not believe what reallllly goes on, until they see it for themselves.

  First of all, I think it is very hard to actually speak to a GB member himself, right? That will be his first disappointment, and when he finds out that "we are all brothers here, we are all the same" is only what the GB will tell you in public... but it's a whole other ball game in private? Well......

  Then.... when, or if he pressures them to give him answer... and they get irritated enough.... he may get DF'd...

  He may start to wonder why they are not acting like 'Christians', like him, like we are all taught to be. Why isn't the GB even more so "Christ like"?

  It just might be the beginning of his awakening.... we hope.
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  Why would a Swingers Club Want to Become a Religion?

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  " a nashville swingers club has undergone a conversion it now says that it is a church in order to win city approval, so that it can open next to a christian school.

  " (associated press).

  the article explains, "a church is something that cannot be defined under the u.s. constitution"..... wt lawyers explain to the court all of the time; 'you can't interfere with our internal church policies, or you will be infringing on our first amendment rights.

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  cha ching

  I like that Billy! "The Church of Brunch" Marvelous!

  Simon, that is exactly what I was thinking about.... special privileges? for what? Why?

  "Why should a group with some particular crazy beliefs get special treatment vs some other group?"

  Exactly!